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Tuning systems, and why equal temperament cannot represent them

Most of the world’s music is not built from twelve equal semitones, and the intervals it does use are not decorative deviations from a grid — they are the notes. This page sets out five systems with their numbers, where those numbers come from, and, just as importantly, which of them are genuinely disputed.

What equal temperament actually did

Twelve-tone equal temperament divides the octave into twelve identical steps of exactly 100 cents. It has one enormous virtue and one enormous cost, and both are consequences of the same decision.

The virtue: every key sounds the same. You can modulate anywhere, transpose anything, and build a keyboard that plays all of it. The cost: no interval except the octave is in tune. The fifth is two cents narrow, the major third is fourteen cents wide, and every chord you have ever heard on a piano is a compromise that a violin section quietly corrects.

That trade is worth making for music that modulates constantly. It is a bad trade for music that does not — and most of the music on this page stays in one mode for an entire performance, which means it has no use for the flexibility and no reason to pay for it.

The problem is not “extra notes between the keys”

The common framing is that these traditions use quarter tones — notes halfway between the piano keys — and that a fine enough grid would capture them. It would not, for three separate reasons, and each one defeats a different proposed fix.

  1. The intervals are not halves of anything. A Persian neutral second is around 125145 cents, not 150. A Turkish segâh is 384 cents, not 350.
  2. They are ranges, not values. Egyptian and Syrian players place the same degree 14 cents apart, and both are correct. A grid has to pick one.
  3. The same written note moves depending on what it is doing. An E half-flat as the third of Rast and an E half-flat as the second of Bayati are the same notehead and different pitches. No equal division of any size can express that, because an equal division has exactly one E half-flat.

1. Turkish makam — the comma system

Turkish art music is codified by the Arel-Ezgi-Uzdilek system, which counts the octave in 53 commas. Its intervals are Pythagorean: stacked perfect fifths, exactly as European music was before meantone.

IntervalCommasRatioCentsWhat it is
Koma1531441/52428823.46¢Pythagorean comma
Bakiye4256/24390.22¢limma — the Pythagorean diatonic semitone
Kucuk mucenneb52187/2048113.69¢apotome — the chromatic semitone
Buyuk mucenneb865536/59049180.45¢Pythagorean diminished third
Tanini99/8203.91¢whole tone
Artik ikili1216777216/14348907270.67¢augmented second — the Hicaz leap

Three makams built entirely from that vocabulary:

Makam Rast

DegreeCommasCentsOn a chromatic dial
Rast0 commas0.00¢tonic
Dugah9 commas203.91¢+2 semitones, +4¢
Segah17 commas384.36¢+4 semitones, -16¢
Cargah22 commas498.04¢+5 semitones, -2¢
Neva31 commas701.96¢+7 semitones, +2¢
Huseyni40 commas905.87¢+9 semitones, +6¢
Evic48 commas1086.31¢+11 semitones, -14¢
Gerdaniye53 commas1200.00¢+12 semitones

In performance: Segah, the third degree, is the one everybody argues about. AEU puts it 17 commas above rast; Arab practice puts the corresponding sikah between 342 and 356 cents, which is 30 to 40 cents lower. Both are called a neutral third and they are not the same pitch.

Makam Ussak

DegreeCommasCentsOn a chromatic dial
Dugah0 commas0.00¢tonic
Segah8 commas180.45¢+2 semitones, -20¢
Cargah13 commas294.13¢+3 semitones, -6¢
Neva22 commas498.04¢+5 semitones, -2¢
Huseyni31 commas701.96¢+7 semitones, +2¢
Acem39 commas882.40¢+9 semitones, -18¢
Gerdaniye44 commas996.09¢+10 semitones, -4¢
Muhayyer53 commas1200.00¢+12 semitones

In performance: The flat second is the signature, and it is where AEU is furthest from what players do: theory puts it 8 commas up, about 180 cents, and performance is routinely lower still. Signell measured Turkish players consistently below the theoretical value on this degree.

Makam Hicaz

DegreeCommasCentsOn a chromatic dial
Dugah0 commas0.00¢tonic
Dik kurdi5 commas113.69¢+1 semitone, +14¢
Nim hicaz17 commas384.36¢+4 semitones, -16¢
Neva22 commas498.04¢+5 semitones, -2¢
Huseyni31 commas701.96¢+7 semitones, +2¢
Acem39 commas882.40¢+9 semitones, -18¢
Gerdaniye44 commas996.09¢+10 semitones, -4¢
Muhayyer53 commas1200.00¢+12 semitones

In performance: The augmented second in the middle is 12 commas — about 271 cents — in theory, and measurement finds it narrower in performance, with the second degree pushed up and the third pulled down. This is the makam where the gap between AEU and practice is largest and most audible.

Ahenk: the pitch level, set by the ney

One more variable that has nothing to do with the scale. Turkish art music is written at a fixed nominal pitch — the degree called rast is written as G — and sounds wherever the ney in the room dictates, because every other instrument can be retuned or refretted and the ney cannot. The levels are named after ney lengths:

AhenkWhat it is
BolahenkThe shortest common ney and the highest ahenk; the nisfiye ("half") is shorter still and is the usual teaching and solo level.
SupurdeA step below bolahenk. Common in fasil ensembles.
MustahsenBetween supurde and kiz.
KizOne of the two most-used ensemble ahenks, and the one most often named when a recording states its level.
MansurThe other of the two, and the one several sources treat as the reference against which the rest are described.
SahBelow mansur. Sources disagree about whether this level puts rast at F or F sharp, which is why no pitch is printed here.
DavudOne of the longest neys and the lowest of the common ahenks.

2. Arabic maqam — and the 24-quarter-tone simplification

The 1932 Cairo Congress of Arab Music adopted a division of the octave into 24 equal quarter tones. That convention is why an Arabic score can be typeset at all: it gives the half-flat a notehead and a fixed meaning of 50 cents.

It is a notation, and it was adopted knowing it was not a measurement. We offer it on this site as an explicit, labelled simplification — the quarter-tone marker set on the playable oud is exactly that — and the reason it needs a label is below.

The third degree of RastCentsAgainst 24-EDO theory
Egyptian342¢-8.0¢
24-quarter-tone theory (Cairo, 1932)350¢— (this is the theory)
Syrian / Levantine356¢+6.0¢
Turkish makam (17 commas of 53)384.9¢+34.9¢

Fourteen cents separates Cairo from Damascus, which is comfortably audible and identifies a player’s school the way an accent identifies a speaker. The Turkish degree of the same name is 35 cents above the theory and is not a quarter tone in any sense — it is a flattened major third.

Small whole-number ratios make a useful ruler for reading those numbers. These are arithmetic rather than measurements, and nobody claims a player aims at them:

RatioCentsWhat it is
13/12138.6¢small neutral second
12/11150.6¢neutral second — the closest simple ratio to a "quarter tone" step
11/10165.0¢large neutral second
11/9347.4¢neutral third — the classic undecimal one
27/22354.5¢neutral third
16/13359.5¢large neutral third

Read against that, the Egyptian 342 and Syrian 356 both sit near the simple neutral thirds, and the Turkish 385 sits near none of them. The traditions are not disagreeing about where a quarter tone goes; they are using different intervals.

Per maqam family — and where we stop

FamilyThe degree in question24-EDO saysWhat is actually known
RastSikah — the third degree350¢Egyptian 342¢ · Syrian / Levantine 356¢ · Turkish segah (17 commas) 384.9¢
BayatiThe second degree150¢direction known, size not — see below
Sikah / HuzamThe tonic itself0¢direction known, size not — see below
SabaThe third and fourth degrees300¢direction known, size not — see below

Rast: Fourteen cents between Cairo and Damascus is comfortably audible and identifies a player the way an accent identifies a speaker. The Turkish degree is 35 cents above the theoretical value and is not a quarter tone in any sense.

Bayati: Reported consistently BELOW the 150 cents that 24-EDO notation implies, and below the corresponding degree of Rast, even though both are written as the same half-flat. The direction of the difference is well attested; the size of it varies by region and by performer. No cent value is printed because this repo has not reviewed one. Marcus (1993) is the source to measure against; until an entry here carries a figure and a page reference, the page states the direction and not a number.

Sikah / Huzam: The family whose tonic IS the neutral degree, so every question above applies to the tonic rather than to a note inside the scale — which is why a Sikah piece cannot be transposed onto a piano at all, not even badly. The absolute placement of the tonic follows whichever school the player belongs to; the Rast measurements above are the nearest reviewed figures this repo has.

Saba: Saba is the family that breaks the octave: its fourth degree is lowered, so the scale does not repeat at 1200 cents in the way the others do. That structural fact is not in dispute; the exact sizes are. No cent values shipped. A reviewed measurement of the Saba tetrachord would complete this entry.

3. Persian dastgah — koron and sori

Persian notation carries two accidentals Western notation does not: the koron, which lowers, and the sori, which raises. Ali-Naghi Vaziri’s early-20th-century reform defined both as exactly half a semitone — 50 cents — which makes the system 24-EDO and makes a koron the same object as an Arabic half-flat.

Hormoz Farhat rejects that outright. In The Dastgāh Concept in Persian Music (Cambridge, 1990) he argues Persian music has no fixed interval sizes at all, and describes practice in terms of a handful of sizes rather than a grid:

IntervalCentsWhat it is
Semitone~90¢Roughly the Pythagorean limma. The one interval Persian and Western practice broadly agree on.
Neutral second125–145¢The characteristic Persian interval, and the reason a koron is not a quarter tone. Farhat gives it as a band, not a value.
Whole tone~204¢The Pythagorean 9/8.
Plus tone~270¢The wide step of Chahargah and Homayoun — larger than a whole tone, smaller than a minor third.

Work the arithmetic through and the consequence is concrete. A koron applied to a whole tone lowers it by 59 to 79 cents, not fifty — because 204 minus a neutral second of 125 to 145 is 59 to 79. So a Persian koron and an Arabic half-flat, written almost identically, are not interchangeable pitches.

Farhat’s wider point is not a footnote to his numbers, it ishis argument: the sizes move with the performer, with the teaching line, and with where in the dastgah the note falls. He treats that variability as the system’s defining property rather than as imprecision in it — so a page printing one number for a koron would be contradicting its own best source.

4. Indian shruti — a reference frame, not a tuning

The octave is traditionally described as 22 shrutis. The ratio table below is the one reproduced in modern Indian music theory and in most Western writing about it — but three things have to travel with it.

  1. The Natyashastra gives no ratios. It describes 22 shrutis and assigns intervals of 4, 3 and 2 of them to the notes of the scale, and never states an absolute size. Every ratio table is a later reconstruction, and the common ones disagree — this list uses 45/32 and 64/45 for the tritone pair where others use 729/512 and 1024/729.
  2. The shrutis are not a tuning. No instrument is fretted to 22 notes. A performer tunes a drone and places each note of the raga by ear against it, which is why the same swara sits differently in different ragas.
  3. What is tuned precisely is the drone — and that is the part a dial genuinely helps with.
#RatioCents#RatioCents
11/10.00¢1245/32590.22¢
2256/24390.22¢1364/45609.78¢
316/15111.73¢143/2701.96¢
410/9182.40¢15128/81792.18¢
59/8203.91¢168/5813.69¢
632/27294.13¢175/3884.36¢
76/5315.64¢1827/16905.87¢
85/4386.31¢1916/9996.09¢
981/64407.82¢209/51017.60¢
104/3498.04¢2115/81088.27¢
1127/20519.55¢22243/1281109.78¢

The tanpura, which really is tuned to targets

The fourth string is the tonic an octave down, the middle two are the tonic, and the first takes the degree the raga wants — at a pure ratio, not a tempered one:

TuningRatioCentsAgainst equal temperamentWhen
Pa-Sa-Sa-Sa3/2701.96¢+1.96¢The default. Used for the large majority of ragas.
Ma-Sa-Sa-Sa4/3498.04¢-1.96¢For ragas that omit Pa — Malkauns and Marwa among them.
Ni-Sa-Sa-Sa15/81088.27¢-11.73¢A small group, including some treatments of Raga Bhairav and Hindol.

Two cents sounds like nothing and is not. A tanpura sustains, and against a sustained drone a two-cent error is an audible beat rather than a rounding error — the drone pulses instead of sitting still. This is the one place on the site where following the needle to the centre makes the instrument sound worse. The tanpura tuner computes all four strings at pure ratios from whatever Sa you choose.

5. Gamelan — slendro and pelog

The rule is stronger here than anywhere else on this page: there is no such thing as “the” slendro or “the” pelog.A gamelan is tuned as a set, by its maker, and its scale belongs to that instrument. Two gamelans in the same city are not interchangeable and are not expected to be — players discuss a gamelan’s embat, its particular tuning character, as an identifying trait rather than as a deviation from anything.

Which means a tuner cannot tell you that a gamelan is out of tune. It can tell you what the gamelan in front of you is, which is a different and more useful job.

Slendro: Five steps per octave, near enough to equal that the equal-step model is a useful first approximation and far enough from it that no real gamelan matches. Measured instruments vary by tens of cents per degree, and that variation is the instrument’s identity rather than an error in it. The equal-step idealisation is 240 cents a step — 0, 240, 480, 720, 960, 1200 — and it is shipped here labelled as an idealisation, because it is what people mean when they say “slendro is five equal steps” and it is worth being able to hear how far a real instrument is from it.

Pelog: Seven unequal steps per octave, of which any one piece uses five, selected by pathet. The steps are genuinely uneven — some near a semitone, some wider than a whole tone — so no equal division of any size approximates it.

All five, at a glance

SystemDivisionsEqual?What varies
12-tone equal temperament
The global default, and what this site’s dial measures
12YesNothing — that is its defining property. What varies is the reference pitch it is hung on: A=440 is a 20th-century agreement, orchestras use 442 or 443, and baroque performance uses 415.
Turkish makam — Arel-Ezgi-Uzdilek
Turkish art music; the theory taught in Turkish conservatories
53NoAEU is a codification, not a transcription. Measured Turkish performance departs from it consistently on the neutral degrees, most of all in Ussak and Hicaz. Ahenk — the transposition level the ensemble plays at — is a separate variable again, set by the ney rather than by the score.
Arabic maqam
Egypt, the Levant, Iraq, the Gulf and the Maghreb
24YesEverything about the neutral degrees. Egyptian and Levantine sikah are 14 cents apart; the same written half-flat sits lower as the second of Bayati than as the third of Rast; and the Turkish degree of the same name is 30 to 40 cents above either.
Persian dastgah
Iran, and the radif repertoire
24NoThe size of every neutral interval, by performer, by school and by where in the dastgah it falls. Farhat treats that variability as the system’s defining property rather than as imprecision in it.
Indian shruti
Hindustani and Carnatic classical music
22NoThe ratios themselves — the Natyashastra gives none, and reconstructions disagree. And the placement of every note in performance, which follows the raga rather than a grid.
Gamelan — slendro and pelog
Java and Bali
5NoThe entire scale. Two gamelans are not expected to agree, their difference is named — embat — and treated as character rather than error, and instruments from different sets are not played together.

Sources

Every cent value on this page is either computed from a ratio in lib/tuning-systems.ts or carries a source there. Where this site does not have a reviewed figure, it says so rather than filling the gap. The reading behind each system:

  • 12-tone equal temperamentISO 16 (concert pitch); the equal division is arithmetic, not a measurement..
  • Turkish makam — Arel-Ezgi-UzdilekH. S. Arel, Turk Musikisi Nazariyati Dersleri (1930s); Karl Signell, Makam: Modal Practice in Turkish Art Music (1977); Ozan Yarman, on pitch notation in Turkish makam music (2007-08).
  • Arabic maqamCairo Congress of Arab Music, 1932, for the 24-tone convention; Scott Marcus, "The Interface between Theory and Practice: Intonation in Arab Music", Asian Music 24/2 (1993); Habib Hassan Touma, The Music of the Arabs (1996).
  • Persian dastgahAli-Naghi Vaziri, for the koron/sori notation; Hormoz Farhat, The Dastgah Concept in Persian Music (Cambridge, 1990).
  • Indian shrutiBharata, Natyashastra, ch. 28; Alain Danielou, Introduction to the Study of Musical Scales (1943).
  • Gamelan — slendro and pelogSurjodiningrat, Sudarjana and Susanto, Tone Measurements of Outstanding Javanese Gamelans in Jogjakarta and Surakarta (1972).

Tune the instrument

Every one of these systems has a page here where it stops being theory.

  • OudArabic, Turkish and Iraqi tunings side by side, with fretless intonation targets for each degree of Rast.
  • TanburThe Turkish comma system as fifty tied frets, with the millimetre positions worked out.
  • Bağlama / sazWhy a düzen is a relationship rather than a set of notes.
  • NeyThe instrument that sets everyone else’s pitch and cannot be tuned itself.
  • QanunDiatonic pegs, and mandal levers that produce every microtone afterwards.
  • TarMovable gut frets, and the Persian neutral second in millimetres.
  • SetarKoron and sori, and how far a koron really lowers a note.
  • SanturRetuning a 72-string instrument by a quarter tone to change dastgah.
  • KamanchehFretless, so every neutral interval is the hand.
  • TanpuraA pure 3/2 fifth, and why a twelve-tone tuner will argue with it.
  • SitarSa is yours, and eleven sympathetic strings follow the raga.
  • SarodA fretless metal fingerboard with no markers at all.

And if you want to hear the difference between an Egyptian and a Syrian sikah rather than read about it, the playable oud draws both as a band on a fretless neck, because a marker can show a range where a fret has to pick one.

Frequently asked questions

Why can’t a normal tuner handle these systems?

Because a chromatic tuner has twelve notes in an octave and most of these systems do not. A dial rounds whatever it hears to the nearest of twelve semitones and reports how far off you are, which works perfectly when the note you want is one of those twelve and breaks down when it is not — an Arabic sikah sits about 45 cents from the nearest semitone, which is almost exactly halfway, so the dial cannot even tell you which note you were aiming at. What it can still do, and do well, is measure: the cents readout is a precise ruler regardless of what the note is called.

Is a quarter tone the same everywhere?

No, and this is the single most misleading idea in the subject. The 1932 Cairo Congress adopted 24 equal quarter tones as a notation, which fixes the half-flat at exactly 50 cents. Measured practice does not agree with it or with itself: Egyptian players place the third degree of Rast around 342 cents, Syrian players around 356, and the corresponding Turkish degree sits near 385 — which is a flattened major third, not a quarter tone at all. On top of the regional spread, the same written note is placed differently depending on which maqam it is in and what it is doing there.

Is Turkish music really 53 equal steps to the octave?

No. Turkish theory counts an octave as 53 commas, but its intervals are Pythagorean — stacked 3/2 fifths — and the Pythagorean comma is 23.46 cents. Fifty-three of those is 1243 cents, which overshoots an octave by 43. The unit that does divide an octave 53 times is 22.64 cents and it is not the interval the theory’s ratios describe. Both survive because the comma counts are a labelling scheme that adds up correctly inside the Pythagorean lattice rather than a multiplication: four commas plus five commas really is nine commas, because 90.22 + 113.69 = 203.91 exactly.

Are the 22 shrutis a tuning?

No — they are a reference frame. No instrument is fretted to 22 notes and no musician tunes to a 22-note grid: a performer tunes a tanpura and then places each note of the raga by ear against that drone, which is why the same swara sits differently in different ragas. The ratio tables you see published are later reconstructions rather than anything the Natyashastra states — it describes 22 shrutis and assigns intervals of 4, 3 and 2 of them to the notes of the scale, and never gives a single ratio. The reconstructions disagree with each other in places.

What is the one thing a tuner is genuinely good for in these traditions?

Measuring, rather than judging. Use the cents readout and ignore the note name: "the minor third, plus 42 cents" is a precise, repeatable description of where your finger landed, and it is the number you compare against a measured value or against yesterday. It is also the right tool for the parts of these traditions that really are tuned to targets — the open courses of an oud, a tanpura drone, the unison inside a santur course — which are ordinary pitches even when everything played on top of them is not.